Today, another piece of news appeared in the Star regarding the same college which I wrote about, 3 weeks ago over HERE. It is rather sad to hear that hundreds of students will likely be affected. None of their programs are yet to be accredited by MMC except the abandoned twinning program with Indonesian University. What will happen if MMC decides not to accreditate this university? Looking at the current scenario, teaching facilities and staff situation, very likely MMC will NOT accreditate this university. The worst affected will be their local program and the MD UKM program. From my previous post, i received few comments from students who were doing the twining program with the 2 Ireland universities. It was mentioned that most of the government sponsored students were absorbed into the Ireland university’s 5 year program. If I am not mistaken, they had to start from Year 1 again. I am not sure about the self paying students. The whole idea of twinning is to reduce cost.
Over the years, I told many students who wanted to do medicine in this university NOT to accept the offer. Right from the beginning I had doubts about this university. No university in this world can run 5 medical programs. Unfortunately, due to their “generous” scholarship offer, many students/parents were “tricked” into accepting the offer without checking the background, teaching facilities etc. The human nature is to find the cheapest possible way to make their children a doctor. As I have said many times before, doing medicine is not just about getting a degree. It is more than that.
If indeed the university is in dire need of money, the only option is to sell it or ask the state government to buy over. Sheffield university was bought over by the Perak state government when they went into financial difficulties in late 1990s. It was renamed Royal College of Medicine of Perak till it was sold to UniKL few years ago. The same situation might happen over here. It is considered a bail-out but do the government have enough money now? Furthermore, the state government is under the opposition where as the owner of this uni is considered a close ally of the federal government. This was evident from past newspaper promotional activities of the college where DPM, ex-PM attended.
From today’s article in the Star (see below), it was mentioned that students are not allowed to enter the teaching government hospitals. I am not sure what is happening but very likely the university is not paying the HODs of the hospital. Generally every university has to pay each HOD of the hospital a monthly allowance of about RM 800-1500 to facilitate teaching of the students in the wards. The HODs have every right to block the students from entering the wards if there is a conflict.
Over the years, many did not believe the advice that I gave. I talked about the reality on the ground but people get carried away with the promises given by businessman. Many would like to believe what is written in the brochure and promises by the respective marketing team. For over 4 years, I wrote about all these marketing gimmicks and yet people refuse to believe. Perdana University promised their own teaching hospital by the time the first batch reaches final year! Again, I was sceptical. To date, even the ground work has not started!! The government is to be blamed for all this mess but our society also need to wake up from their sleep. WE have an ignorant society. Many refuse to believe what is written in this blog despite facts and figures. Many feel that it is all negative and nothing positive. BUT, what is written in this blog will NEVER be told to you by anyone else. It is the reality and the truth. The truth hurts. If you want to hear positive things, just open the mainstream newspaper daily!
Anyway, I hope an amicable solution will be taken by the college for the sake of the students. Many of them may need to transfer to another college and redo their entire course. UKM may even pull out their degree. Hope everything will end well.
This will likely be my last blog entry till the MMA AGM in Johor. Please do come down to JB to attend the AGM
AUCMS students badly hit by school’s financial woes
BY RAHMAH GHAZALI
PETALING JAYA: Hundreds of Penang-based private medical school Allianze University Medical Sciences (AUCMS) students have suffered from the school’s financial crisis, which has allegedly dragged on for a year.
An employee, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told The Star Online that the students were no longer allowed to serve their practical years in some government hospitals due to the college’s poor track record.
“There are many occasions where the students are not allowed to enter the wards as the hospital’s departments refused to accept students from AUCMS.
“They complained that the quality of teaching in AUCMS has been below the standard of medical school,” he claimed.
The plight of AUCMS employees was highlighted in The Star Online on Apr 22, with some turning to loan sharks in desperation as their salaries have allegedly not been paid in four months.
Despite repeated reminders to the college’s management including a signed petition, the employee said their concerns have been ignored.
“Our patience is running thin. It’s been five months now and we haven’t received a sen yet,” he said, adding that the employees are planning to take legal action against the college.
“More than 65 employees have signed a petition letter demanding their salaries, Employees Provident Funds contributions and scheduler tax reduction are paid according to their contracts.
“However, the management still has not responded to the petition,” he said.
He also said the employees are threatening to boycott the classes due to the ongoing problems.
“Our medical faculty is also badly hit as many high-ranked and clinical lecturers have left to other institutions,” he said.
He added that the employees have decided to take legal action against the college for the unpaid salaries.
AUCMS president Datuk Dr Zainuddin Md Wazir had previously said that they were going through some “financial hiccups” and vowed to make the outstanding payments as early as this month.
When reached for comments, Zainuddin said the management is “sorting it out the issue immediately.
“We acknowledge their problems and we are in the midst of settling it,” he said, briefly.
AUCMS is a private learning institution located at Kepala Batas, Penang that runs specialised courses of study in medicine, hospitality, tourism, sports science and allied health sciences.
AUCMS students in Ireland did not start from year 1 again.
They were to finish their pre-clinical study in Ireland after 2 and a half years supposedly but due to the whatever happened in the HQ, they were absorbed into the full time programme and continue on for the rest of the 2 and a half clinical years in Ireland as well.
OK, Thanks. I thought it was the either way round
“… what is written in this blog will NEVER be told to you by anyone else”.
Very true, Dr Paga. That is why this site is such a gem insofar as I am concerned. I have learned so much and looks forward to every new piece that you write. Let the hard truths be told and for those who prefer to bury their heads in sand, let them be as they cant face the hard truths. Hubris could be their problem. Or it could be the Ostrich Syndrome which characterises the behaviour of many of today’s politicians, businessmen, and parents who live their dream to be doctors through their children (doctors by proxy maybe) and children who cant think independently and aspire to be what their parents want them to be. Keep on writing doc for me and my children who are growing up. This is great educational counselling for them.
Thanks
Haiyaa nowdays so many people study medicine for status reasons only. I know doctors who have entered private practice soon after completing compulsory government service for four years.tell me how much the doctor will know in four years?leave gov service become full time doctor in clinic chain to pay for expensive car, house, then cekik darah patients with the bill. May His Almighty save this country lah! Apa lagi nak cakap?
Unfortunately, that’s the truth.
Opinion….so in your opinion….how many yrs must the doctor work in government hospital before moving to private ??
You better dont cakap lagi….cos you are talking C__k
The problem with private sector in Malaysia is the fact that no one monitors you once you decide to open your clinic. Unlike developed countries where you need certain number of CME points and in some countries, periodic exams need to taken to keep up your knowledge, Malaysia do not have such monitoring mechanism in place. The field of medicine is expanding and changing so fast that many doctors out there are still practising “out dated” medicine!
Even with 5 medical programmes they are in boiling water. After losing 3 of its franchise… AUCMS only has MD(UKM) and MD(AUCMS) left…. wonder how are they going to sustain their business.
To top that off, they still owe their lost franchise with Ireland a big lump of non-payment of fees. And… with UKM, 1 million more. And their staff… more… and their default payments with USU…
Time to grad popcorn
When you use strong political link and big cables to set up businesses, you will get electric shock and got burnt because the current is too strong without the NCB switch board to control the voltage.
It’s not only AUCMS got their medicine cooked but public universities like USM and UM (University Malaya) do affected but the increasing demand of qualified medical lecturers. The left over medical lecturers in public varsities are the one waiting for their pension anytime soon. http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/05/20/Varsities-losing-medical-lecturers-Many-attracted-by-better-salaries-and-less-workload-in-private-sc/
What more do you expect the quality from these future public varsities student whereby 95% intake of their student are from the 10 months’ matrikulasi course after their SPM. Gone are the days where public universities only select well qualified student with HSC/STPM qualification for their medical faculty. In the old syllabus of Form 6th, student need to pass their practical exam in their science subjects. Nowadays, Form 6th are replaced with express classes of Matrikulasi and Foundation courses. It’s just my opinion that future medical student should be wise to choose good private medical varsities rather than public varsities which begin to show sign of brain drain especially in their medical faculty.
Private universities are not great either! IN terms of facilities , public universities are still the best. With their own teaching hospital, UM/UKM/USM are still the best place for practical and clinical exposure. The fact is, despite many leaving public universities (which is nothing new), they still have enough number of tutors and support services. On the other hand, most private universities are surviving with skeleton staffs with no proper teaching hospitals. Not all the good staffs who leave public universities go to private universities. almost 80% go to private hospitals!
Can i know what is the difference between a govt teaching hospital and a govt hospital where the private Unis attach their medical students to do clincal?
General hospitals are not meant for teaching purposes. It is not built for that. IT is not conducive for teaching. The hospitals are overcrowded with no proper rooms for discussion and even place to stand for bedside teaching. Many investigations are delayed and cannot be done to make a diagnosis during an admission. Can you get a CT Scan immediately for a suspected Cancer of the lung? Definitely NO. This becomes a major setback when it comes to teaching and monitoring patients. Furthermore, students are not allowed to do a lot of things such as taking blood, setting lines, writing in case notes, giving medications etc etc. Students are looked upon as trouble makers rather than part of the system, especially if you from a private university. Some HOD even block students from entering certain wards. The politics is rather annoying at times. Most students do not even get any teaching when the hospital consultants do rounds. Thus the students depend on their own faculty academics to learn.
In teaching hospitals like UH etc, students are allowed to do a lot of procedures as well as even giving drugs. You have proper rooms for teaching within the wards and beds are well organised for bedside teaching. Every round is a teaching round. Library facilities, investigations modalities are well equipped.
General hospitals may have more patients than teaching hospitals but the environment is not conducive for teaching.
According to The Star and NSTP articles, 38 medical university lecturers left USM in just a short span of last 6 months and 21 clinical medical lecturers left University Malaya just last year. Not that I know of any private university has that much of turnover in medical lecturer except probably Insaniah University and AUCMS lately, which both have strong link to our current ruling political party. It’s true that future student have to exercise their choice if they were to be placed in these public universities which took things for granted, just like our MAS airline.
Actually, exodus like this happens on and off. FYI, private universities have higher rate of turnover compared to public universities. IT is just that it never appears in newspapers.
Dear Dr Pagalavan,
You say that the lecturer turnover is higher in private medical school. If the salary is higher is private medical school, so why ?
How about mass exodus of lecturer form UKM ?
Do you think USM lecturer exodus due to the fact that Kota Bharu is “boring” city ?
Higher salary is not the only factor. Working environment, promotions, research facilities etc plays an important role as well. Every public university have been having this problems since late 1990s. The situation just got worst because the salary in MOH is better than the universities since 2011
Dear Dr Pagalavan,
You say that the lecturer turnover is higher in private medical school. If the salary is higher in private medical school than government medical school, so why ?
How about mass exodus of lecturer from UKM ?
Do you think USM lecturer exodus due to the fact that Kota Bharu is “boring” city ?
Indeed. public universities with their own teaching hospitals would be the best place to nurture future junior doctors. Then again, when good senior staff in public universities leave to private, then who would be guiding the masters students, who will then be future specialists?
That has been happening for almost 10 years now since private hospitals started mushrooming in 1990s. I had written about it before.
Indeed, looks like public universities own teaching hospitals are run down with old equipments and carrying decades of old assets. Recently, Higher education dept. director-general Prof.Datuk Dr.Morshidi has been urging the government to replace those long overdue and obsolete facilities which have fallen into deaf ears. They themselves have been complaining that the old teaching University Hospital is nothing in comparison to upcoming private universities using states’ well maintained General Hospital. Private universities like MAHSA are using Kuala Lumpur GH as their teacing hospital, Melaka Manipal is using Melaka GH, RCMP-UniKL is using the 990 beds Raja Permaisuri Bainun Hospital, AIMST using both the northern states’ 956 and 880 beds General Hospital exclusively as their clinical hospital, and IMU not to mentioned anymore. All the public universities’ medical faculty will fall far behind private universities in the long term.
Having a big general hospital is not the same as having a conducive teaching environment. Most of these general hospitals are not meant for teaching and thus do not have enough facilities to facilitate teaching. NO proper rooms, teaching area, overcrowded with no place to even stand for bedside teaching and examination. That is the problem, not including the “disgusted” look that the students get from the MOH specialist and doctors.
Having more beds and bigger hospital does not guarantee and better teaching environment and oppurtunities.
aidid muaddib has write about this uni before..
http://aididmuaddib.blogspot.com/2011/06/aucms-geng-scammers-kolej-universiti.html
they are scammers!!!
if a lot of USM lecturers are leaving, does it mean that its master program is getting worse ?
Is plastic surgery master program of USM good enough ?
Is the USM hospital better or worse than HUKM / UKM Cheras ? UMMC ?
Thanks
It’s obvious that for public university, only UKM is considered good because it’s clinical training hospital HUKM is quite new together with its facilities. No way a man with sound mind will say that USM and UM with its exodus of medical lecturers are much better than UKM. USM and UM with its bunch of remaining unhappy medical lecturers are in no position superior than those well paid private universities lecturers. Not only are they burdened by those grumpy medical lecturers, 98% of their student intake are from those short cut (10 months) matrikulasi course after their SPM. Just like most primary and secondary student, almost all of them go for private tuition as their public school teachers only taught them probably 60% of the syllabus. All these are fact as public universities in the long run will doom to be on the slides.
Yes, indeed correct. Private paying universities and private international schools are always better than public universities or government schools respectively, especially in countries like Malaysia. Normally free lunch doesn’t last long in Malaysia.
Friend, I know what you meant. It’s okay when there is quota but imposing quota on top of quota is only found in Malaysia. You won’t find this kind of policy in any other part of the world, even not in apartheid Africa. You cannot suppress another group in order to make yourself looks good. The quality of graduates in this kind of universities will eventually dwindle.
Just to clarify, that was another Nav. Not that I can claim ownership over the name. I somewhat disagree with the statement, which is why I’m writing.
Hi Nav, long time no see! Yes, there was another Nav as I can see the email was different
Now I understand why UM is not recognised by GMC (UK) anymore. Those day, medical graduates from University Malaya use to continue their specialisation in UK after they got their MBBS from UM but they are unable to do so anymore. UM graduates have to take MRCP or their own local Master if they were do specialisation.
The issue of specialist training has nothing to do with why UM lost its medical degree recognition with the UK GMC. Several factors were cited, but the single most significant one was the lack of robust admission standards.
Robust admission standards is not simply about the quality and predictive reliability of pre-university (SPM/STPM/Foundation) grades. It includes equal opportunities in terms of race and socioeconomic background. Also, a well audited selections process, records of which are transparent and openly accessible to anyone by statute (eg: anyone in UK can request such details to be released by any UK university under the Freedom of Information Act).
On the issue is specialist training in the UK, this has been delivered through formal training programmes applied for in open competition since about 30 years ago. Those UM doctors you refer to who “used to continue their specialisation in the UK” have mostly not ever been through a formal UK programme.
There are many doctors in Malaysia (quite a number whom I know since I have many family members who are part of the fraternity) who claim to have done specialist training in the UK. Very few of them were ever appointed to a proper/full specialist training programme. Largely, what they actually did include short term postings of mostly 6mths, more rarely 2yrs which include:
1) observerships sponsored by department or self
2) SHO (MO equivalents in the UK system) postings – these are not on the registrar rota, so no real specialist training experience
3) Registrar postings – those who managed to get into such jobs did get proper specialist training time
Most of these doctors came to UK for such postings when they came over to sit their MRCP or FRCS exams. Upon passing, they would return home and sell themselves as specialists. Which is of course funny since in UK, MRCP/FRCS has always been an entry requirement to specialist training, not an exit accreditation qualification.
But of course the general public (and it would seem most medical students) knows nothing about how a doctor actually goes on to become a properly trained and qualified specialist. In recent years, this has improved immeasurably in Bolehland by establishment of the NSR which at least ensures no one can simply pass his MRCP, open his private clinic and call himself eg: Cardiology specialist.
It has nothing to do with that. GMC derecognised UM because they did not agree with the entry requirement and quota system.
That’s what I said, but in a rather less direct manner.
Yup, I was replying to the question as well.
Although with the establishment of NSR, there are many ‘specialists’ with some hospital experience calling themselves as specialists. This is especially true among a lot of ‘consultant dermatologists’ and ‘consultant aesthetic physicians’ in the private sector.
On a side note,although SHOs in UK are ‘technically equivalent’ to MOs in Malaysia, in reality, they function as ‘fully registered’ interns up to the level of MOs.
The NSR currently is a voluntary registration, and has no legal basis. It is administered by the Academy of Medicine Malaysia, on behalf of the MMC. However, the Medical Act amendments has been passed by Parliament, and the Regulations are being drawn up at the moment.
Once the Regulations are gazetted, the requirement for NSR registrations will become a legal process, the registry will be taken over by the MMC, and punitive action can then be legally taken against errant doctors. At the moment, pending this gazettement, there is NO law that prohibits anyone from calling themselves all kinds of things.
The requirements for NSR registration is quite well worked out already, by the respective professional societies. It will be based on the local conditions and requirements, and will not be similar to other countries’. It is not as stringent, but this is a process, and as post graduate training gets more structured, it will change too. This is only the first step.
Hello sir, do you any reviews on the status of msu-ims medical programme? is it possible for it to undergo the same scenario in years to come?
Anything can happen
hello doctor can i ask smth? my friend get MARA loan for medicine at segi uni and at the same time she can do psychology at public uni..which is better as well as i concerned she interested in both course? thank you very much..
It is up to her
I refer to what Jon J wrote, namely: “….In recent years, this has improved immeasurably in Bolehland by establishment of the NSR which at least ensures no one can simply pass his MRCP, open his private clinic and call himself eg: Cardiology specialist.” insofar that I know, in the UK, MRCP is an entry qualification for specialist training just like what Jon J said and that specialist training is a long process. Contrary to what he said in regard to the NSR, I still see doctors freshly qualified with MRCP calling themselves specialist after another short stint in a government hospital. Is that short stint sufficient compared to the UK system where it is much longer? I see some young doctors who open their own private clinics and call themselves specialist. Their names appear on the NSR. Specialists in the UK are a lot older.
Malaysia Boleh after all.
In Malaysia, you are gazetted as a specialist after 18 months of training post MRCP. Recently they have added another 1 year to get NSR registration. Many who do not want to sub specialise and want to make money, will open up clinic.
How long is the gazettement after finishing UM master of Pediatrics ?
Can a foreigner with UM master of Pediatrics ( or graduated from UM master of Pediatrics ) do gazettement ?
6 months. You can’t do gazettement here unless you are offered an employment by Ministry of Health or University Hospitals and your basic degree is recognized by MMC
Dear Dr Pagalavan,
I have been following your blog for quite some time and it is indeed very inspiring. I am currently an MOE scholar studying A-Level at Taylor’s and I will be applying for UK university placement soon. As part of my application processes, I am required to have a prior exposure to the healthcare profession which is a vital part of my resume especially for consideration by very competitive universities, i.e. Cambridge and UCL; part of UCAS prerequisites for medicine course application. It is hard for me to get a place for hospital attachment since I am not a medical student yet albeit my status as an MOE scholar (JPA sponsored student). May I know if it is possible for me to do my hospital attachment with you for at least 3 days? Otherwise, do you have any recommendation of any doctor around the Klang Valley area that will be willing to do so? It would be an honour for me to gain an insight into the real medical world with some of the best practitioner in the industry. Thank you.
Regards,
Syameer
The best place to do attachment is government hospitals. That’s where the real Malaysian medical practise is. Try to contact some of the government hospitals in Klang Valley.
I am offered to study medicine in UKM or USM.
Which one should I choose ?
Which one is better ?
Why ?
Up to you. Both are OK
How much is the locum GP fee in small cities like Kota Bharu and its surrounding cities ?
Is there orthopaedic surgeon shortage ? What is the level of severity of orthopaedic surgeon shortage ?
Thanks
RM 30/hour. Orthopaedic is a field where we have the most number of specialist.
Do you think that orthopedic is a bit saturated now ?
How about general surgery field ?
Is it possible to re-apply the same training field at the same university hospital next year if this year he is rejected ?
Orthopaedic is saturated in private sector.
Yes
jaya man if u have such a luxury of studying in local u
dun ask
appreciate
Which one is better ? Surgery training at UM or UKM ?
Is there October/November/December postgraduate training ? -which university ? which specialty ?
thanks
Both are OK. Generally only 1 intake per year.
How about general surgery training at USM ?
Kota Bharu has a small population, which means the master student will NOT see a wide range of surgical cases.
Have master of pediatrics in Univ Putra Malaysia started training ?
Who said Kita Bahru got small population? It covers the whole Kelantan!!!!
Not sure
Doctor paga, can you pls suggest me a good orthopaedic doctor in peak or kl region… I tried seeing a doc in hospital fatimah but he is saying my mri scan is normal but I have bearing the pain on my right knee for 6 years…
Why don’t you see a Rheumatologist for opinion?
Dr..how can a rheumatologist help ?
(Cos like him….i hv been having this persistent pain on my lower back near pelvic joint….for 1year..did an mri scan and the orthopaedic (in Sunway) said everything is normal. Btw i am a senior citizen)
Pain does not mean it has to be a mechanical problem. It could be inflammatory disease like Spondyloarthropathy etc.
Doctor, from a reliable source, I heard the MD UKM in AUCMS has just been officially closed, now only left their own md program. So I wonder what would happen to its graduates and the current pursuing students in future?
Likely the UKM program students will be absorbed into their local program. However, their local program is yet to get MMC accreditation.
Dr. Pagalavan, can u give any opinion about doing medicine in Aimst University and Russia? What will be the future prospect, eg: housemanship in gov hospital?
I personally assume public universities govern the best facilities and most budget-saving, but I acknowledged that students are getting harder to enrol in medicine course in local public universities, even though with the most perfect results. This leaves no choice but making them to choose private universities to study medicine. Thank you.
I would prefer AIMST than Russia.
Hello Dr Pagalavan,
I’m an ex student of Aucms currently waiting for Sept intake and i’ve been hearing a lot of controversies regarding this college since i left the college.
I’ve been told that the medical entrance interview will be held in the month of june but recently my father called the office and asked about the interview and their reply was the dean is not IN yet and the staff who is responsible in sorting the students list was not present yet!
My question is what should i do now and which medical school should i consider to pursue my medical degree?
Stay away from AUCMS by all means! I just heard that their MD UKM program might be scrapped.
dear future students never ever come to AUCMS
i am doin md aucms ukm
1st
infrastructure in AUCMS is ever so bad and you just couldnt believe that we dont have library in kulim and even kepala batas campus is also so small with only 3 or 4 working pc……
2nd
our lecturer has been almost all have resigned from this college and move other place…some lecturers told us that they 5-6 months unpaid salary…too date still no payment been done…even the guard havent get his unpaid 2 month salary….some are still teaching though they have nt gt their pay for the sake of students…
3rd
the president himself is not concerned about our future….till date he still havent explain to us the current financial status of our college
4th
there was a time my friend in md aucms told me that the college cant even provide lab manuals to the student as they do not have money to buy A4 paper….my friends in md AUCMS dont even have acess to use the lab for their practical as the management dont have money to buy reagents and things necessary to conduct practical
5th
so many classes have been postponed for shortage of lecturers.
finally
i hope to get a solution from all this nonsense…i hope dr Paga could us how to get over these….this situation has been on for more than 6 months…we just can take it …
Withdraw from there by all means!
Which year are you in? If still early, you can still change to another college. If already after 3rd year, you just have to keep your finger’s crossed. MMC likely will not accreditate the program.
You may try MSU Shah Alam,they have 2 intakes in a year.the next intake is in October.No harm trying around.good luck!
I am not getting good feedback from the local program!
Hi Dr Paga,nice to know u r around.just wondering what u meant by poor feedback. Care to elaborate?
I am always around! Well, I received some feedback that they are having the same problem as any other college: lack of lecturers! Classes are being cancelled on and off.
Thanks for the prompt reply Dr Paga.so how about the 1st batch of local graduates are doing as HOs?.tq
Very few of them, have not heard anything yet. However, generally most university’s first batch will be OK as the numbers will be small.
Tq Dr. Paga.do you know just where they are interning as HOs for now?.tq
Nope
Hi doctor paga, thisnwebsote and blog you’ve written was forwarded by my father to make me reconsider to be a doctor.. A good article and such a shame that i would really lobe tonne a doctor as the because of the skills that can be learnt. And furthermore. I was an AUCMS graduate of medsciences. And after reading this i was so shocked of what will the future brings to the future doctors. And i was wondering of being of what are your oppinions in medical engineering? And its future prospect in malaysia?
Do what you are interested but don’t do medicine because of ‘so-called’ skills that you will learn! The job is more than that.
Hi doctor paga, thisnwebsote and blog you’ve written was forwarded by my father to make me reconsider to be a doctor.. A good article and such a shame that i would really lobe tonne a doctor as the because of the skills that can be learnt. And furthermore. I was an AUCMS graduate of medsciences. And after reading this i was so shocked of what will the future brings to the future doctors. And i was wondering of being of what are your oppinions in medical engineering? And its future prospect in malaysia? And thanks in advance.
All AUCMS students are transferred to UKM effectively today 15/8. UKM now has over the amount of students they can handle. For example, 3rd year has 338 students in total (UKM + UNPAD +AUCMS), 4th year 260, 5th year 279.
Yes, I heard about it. UKM may end up having problem with MMC as the number of students are usually determined by MMC.
Well, it sounds good… but it is not fair for a private uni students to be transferred to renowned public uni just because of their improper management, every year lots of qualified students been rejected due to limited seat and now just get expanded in order to accept all of them? Hope MMC would never do such a stupid action… too much student would never easy to be handled!
No choice as UKM have to take responsibility
I believe they may have the minimum required for admission but then r they good enough for UKM?
Well, they have to pass UKM exam. I heard MMC was not going to give accreditation to AUCMS. That’s why UKM have to take them in. AUCMS UKM program is officially closed as of today.
The question that begs an answer is whether UKM is willing to compromise on its quality by admitting leftovers from this problem plaqued IPTS
I think UKM have to take responsibility for what happened. It was them who gave the right for AUCMS To conduct the program. Furthermore, they have government sponsored students as well.
This development is very interesting. When these students are absorbed into UKM, they would be then considered full UKM graduates when they graduate. The thing is that currently Singapore recognises UKM graduates (not from any twinning programme) who would be able to do internship there. Now with this fiasco, definitely some sort of re-evaluation will be coming soon.
Given the rapid transition that has taken place,Singapore MC may well have to reevaluate its recognition stand with regards to UKM.
For UKM grads who plan to work in Sg, its still the same process of interviewing first. Even some of current local grads did not make the cut due to poor knowledge or command in language.
For the AUCMS-UKM programme, it had been confirmed that it will be absorbed into UKM own programme. Executive decision were made on 15th Aug meeting chaired by the Dean and endorsed by VC. All AUCMS students will register in UKM Cheras on Monday(18th Aug). JPA and MARA has agreed to transfer their sponsorship.
Number of studdents in UKM (AUCMS in bracket):
Year 2: 163 (+110) = 273
Year 3: 215 (+48) = 338
Year 4: 201 (+59) = 260
Year 5: 233 (+46) = 279
The year 3 figures do not tally.
My bad, it was 215 + 48(UNPAD) + 75 (AUCMS) = 338
UKM-UNPAD students joined in at Year 3 clinicals after 3 years of pre-clinical in UNPAD.
AUCMS lost its franchises (University College Cork – UCC, National University of Ireland, Galway – NUIG& Universiti Sumatera Utara – USU) due to non-payment of fees. AUCMS owes UKM in excess of RM1.3 million ringgit but there are still UKM franchise students in AUCMS.
An act of desperation because AUCMS students decided to demonstrate at KPT this Monday. Basically UKM claim they cant afford this bad publicity. As everything will be in the news from those who signed the MOA to those who received the allowances from AUCMS *sigh*
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