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I was flipping through the latest Berita MMA magazine (Feb 2012) today and noticed a section on ” SCHOMOS meets Bahagian Perkembangan Perubatan and Bahagian Pengurusan Latihan” http://www.mma.org.my/Portals/0/Schomos%20Feb%202012.pdf. The situation is getting very critical as you can see. Firstly, the new rule says that you need to be in service for at least 5 years ( 2 years HO and 3 years MO) in order for you to qualify for local Master’s application. I had mentioned this earlier in my blog posting https://pagalavan.com/2012/03/01/for-future-doctors-government-doctors-salary/. Our current DG has come up with few more new rules and regulations.

Recently I received an email from a doctor saying that the DG has asked HODs not to sign up for any candidates who wants to sit for MRCP Part 3 if they have not spent at least 1 year in a medical department. I feel it is fair and it is very important for you to undergo adequate training before becoming a physician. In UK, MRCP is just an entrance exam for speciality training. The previous rule of at least 4 years of medical training ( includes 18 months of gazettement) before being gazetted as a specialist still stays but it was not strictly enforced before. I heard, it is being strictly enforced now.

The latest news is that you need to wait for atleast 2 years after gazettement before going for subspeciality training. Initially I thought the 2 years included the gazettement period but I was wrong! Even though it is good for the specialist to master the general speciality before going for subspeciality training, worldwide the duration of training is being shortened. I feel it is way too long.This means that to enter subspeciality training the total duration of service will be a minimum of 8 years for MRCP holders with subsequent 3 years training to become a sub-specialist ( total 11 years minimum), assuming you get your sub-speciality post immediately which is rather unlikely in popular specialities. As for Masters, with the implementation of the above 2+3 criteria, it will take 11 years of service before being able to enter subspeciality training with a total of 14 years to become a sub-specialist!! Remember that other than MRCP( internal medicine), MRCPCH(paediatric) and MRCOG ( Obstetrics and Gynaecology), the only way to become a specialist is via the local Master’s programme.

The SCHOMOS article also says that it is compulsory for newly gazetted specialist to serve rural area , namely Sabah and Sarawak for atleast 6 months as I have written before https://pagalavan.com/2012/02/08/for-future-doctors-panduan-penempatan-dan-pertukaran/. As you can see, what I have been saying all this while is becoming a reality. Our postgraduate education will not be able to cope with the glut of doctors that are being produced. Thus, the knee jerk reaction by our great administrators will be to prolong the training period, force people to serve certain areas and increase the bonding periods ( you will be bonded 5-7 years for Masters and 3-5 years for subspeciality training).

The “Foot in the Mouth syndrome” that is happening for the nurses now, will soon hit the medical field.  Then our great minister will say ” we need specialist but the medical colleges are only producing general training doctors. That’s why we have surplus of doctors!!” WTH.

The storm is coming and it will hit us hard. The way I see it, there’s going to be a huge number of “chronic ” medical officers running around without postgraduate opportunity ( only 10% will get it). Of course, many may not even get a job soon!

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My last article on this series was written on 12th November 2011. The article was about how private hospitals are managed in this country and what is happening lately in private sector. Consultants in private hospitals are NOT employed by the hospital as many presume. You are self-employed and your income depends on your charges. Generally, a consultant fee is only about 20% of the total fee that you pay when you leave a private hospital as a patient. Out of this 20% that the consultant earns, the hospital will take 10-15% as their administrative fee. So, you work to make the hospital rich!

 Towards the end of my last article, I mentioned that the incomes of many specialists in private hospital are gradually dropping due to stiff competition. That is the reality and you can see many consultants jumping from one hospital to another in Klang Valley. Same scenario will soon happen everywhere else.

 When the competition gets tougher, unethical practises will become a norm. Some consultants want to maintain their income and thus indulge themselves in unethical practises by cheating patients. In fact, some go into private practise just to make money at whatever cost, making use of our ignorant society. Many may not like what I am going to write in this article but the truth has to be told. I received this interesting email quite some time ago:

 “I would like to bring to the attention of the public the unethical practices of some doctors in private practice.

 An 8-year-old boy was brought to see me by his father after suffering from fever, cough and vomiting for 1 day. He DID NOT HAVE ANY ABDOMINAL PAIN. He was initially seen by a general practitioner who insisted that the father bring him to see ‘Surgeon G’ at a specific private medical centre in Kuala Lumpur. The father at first refused and had wanted to bring his son to the medical centre where he was born but relented when the medical practitioner said that ‘Surgeon G’ will order some blood tests and will send his son home with some medications.

However, when he brought his son to see ‘Surgeon G’, the surgeon examined his son’s abdomen and pressed so hard that he elicited pain. Then the surgeon told the father that the son had a perforated  appendix and insisted that he be operated the same night. The father was baffled because his son did not have any abdominal pain prior to that excruciating examination but he reluctantly agreed upon insistence by the surgeon. About 1 hour prior to the surgery, the father suspected that something was not right and he asked for his son to be discharged. He then brought his son to see me.

The first thing I noticed was that the boy had a slight cough but he was very active. His father told him to jump to prove that he did not have any abdominal pain, which he did with great enthusiasm. After a thorough examination, I was convinced that the boy did not have appendicitis and definitely not a perforated one. I treated him symptomatically for upper respiratory tract infection and sent him home with some medications. The father was outraged with what happened to his son earlier but he was relieved that his son was saved from an unnecessary surgery. Professionally, I could not  tell him that ‘Surgeon G’ may have tried to cheat him but, in my heart, I knew that was the case because I knew ‘Surgeon G’ very well and had inherited a few of his patients whom he operated upon and had botched the surgeries.

The next day, ‘Surgeon G’ called me and asked what happened to the patient. I told him I was certain that the boy did not have a perforated appendix but he insisted that the boy was very sick and had rigors (severe shivering) when he first saw him. Surgeon G said the boy improved tremendously after one dose of antibiotics. In my years of practice, I have not come across one case where one dose of antibiotics can cure a case of perforated appendicitis. IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE! He also said that the boy’s father was a liar and had lied about his son not having any abdominal pain. Well, dear readers, I am a parent too. No father will lie about his son’s health because he would have wanted the best treatment for his son.

I suspect ‘Surgeon G’ is giving kickbacks to many general practitioners to send patients to him to operate. In return, he would pay these general practitioners for each patient referred to him. He would cooperate with the general practitioners to convince the patients that they need urgent surgery.  I have personally worked with ‘Surgeon G’ and I know that his skills are questionable. He told me once that it is alright for a patient to have a recurrent disease as a result of his incomplete surgery because he would then refer the patient to another surgeon to tackle the problem. He had caused one death from a thyroid operation and at least 2 cases of complications after galbladder surgeries which he refused to admit fault. In his clinic he has medical books with pictures of dangerous diseases which he uses to scare his patients into accepting surgery.

I am writing this to alert the public that there are doctors who are out for money only and are unethical in their practices. It breaks my heart that there are such individuals practising freely and fleecing off  unsuspecting and vulnerable patients and giving this noble profession a bad name. The only defence patients have is to be knowledgeable about their own illnesses and not be afraid to ask questions. All patients have to right to a second opinion and no doctors should coerce their patients to accept treatment against their will. The only consolation I have is that most doctors, both in public and private practice, are still ethical and are sincere in helping their patients.

Please circulate this article to your friends and loved ones and let’s hope no one will suffer in the hands of surgeons like ‘Surgeon G’. Also, beware of the general practitoner who insists that you see a particular specialist in a particular hospital because he could be working hand-in-hand with that doctor.”

Unfortunately, due to survival, many doctors are doing what is mentioned above. I even hear jokes at times that people around certain particular hospital got no appendix! This is because everyone who goes to this hospital with abdominal pain, vomiting or diarrhoea will have their appendix removed!! Few years ago I had a 16 year old girl who went to a private hospital for vomiting. She had an appendicectomy. She was still vomiting after discharge and was brought to government hospital 2 days later. When I asked her whether she had any abdominal pain, she clearly denied. It seems the consultant pressed her abdomen so hard that she had pain. It turns out to be that she was pregnant!! A simple history of LMP and a UPT would have given you the diagnosis. It’s all about money!

I have heard colonoscopy being done on a 16-year-old teenager who gets admitted for diarrhoea, which is just a simple acute gastroenteritis. Any patient with abdominal pain will have an Upper and Lower endoscopy done automatically if not an appendicectomy! Some doctors do not even examine the patient before ordering these investigations!!

It is very sad that the medical profession has gone so low just because everyone wants to make money. This is the reason why I keep saying that if you do medicine for money, eventually you will be carried away and unknowingly do unethical practices to sustain your income. Your motto of “saving lives” will remain a motto only. I will say this again : there is no money in medicine!! I have personally known specialist who are paying GPs to refer cases to them as mentioned in the email above. That could be the reason why certain GPs only refer their cases to a particular consultant in a particular hospital despite that consultant is not a sub-specialist in the field that is needed. That’s how desperate the consultants in private hospital have become.

I have had SLE patients with gross edema due to nephritis but the consultant in the hospital refuse to refer the patient to a nephrologist for a renal biopsy. Indeed, he was treating the patient with immunosuppressive agents without a renal biopsy (which is the standard practice)!! How unethical, but it happens. They rather take care of their pocket than the interest of the patient. Even though the specialist is not an expert in a particular field and the patient is still suffering from the illness, they still do not refer the patient to an expert! And they got no insight to the harm they have done to the patient. A good doctor will know his limit and would refer his patients out for the best level of care, whether to the government or another private hospital. He will not keep the patient to make money!

Also, don’t assume that all specialists in private hospitals are skilful. I have seen surgeons who can’t even do a simple hernia surgery but yet practicing in a private hospital. Most of the smaller private hospitals do not even have an ethics committee and what they want is just money. Whatever mistake or unethical practices that the specialist do, the hospital is not bothered as the hospital will just wash their hands off when the consultant gets sued (the hospital has already made the money!).

Do unethical practises occur in government hospitals? Rather unlikely but what I hated most when I was in the government service was when different and expedited treatment is given to VIPs! The VIPs were treated immediately and everything gets done fast. CT scans can be done the same day when general public have to wait for 3 months. I had always refused to entertain VIPs when I was in government service and my HOD was well aware of this.

I would say that partly the society is to be blamed for these unethical practices. Our society still has a lot of trust in doctors that they still feel that the doctor is doing the best for them. Fortunately, most still do but we are seeing more and more doctors who are cheating patients day by day. Unfortunately, our society believes that a doctor who says that nothing needs to be done as a useless doctor where as a doctor who removes an asymptomatic gallbladder is a good doctor! The public needs to be educated to do their own research and seek 2nd opinion when necessary before making a decision or they should ask for clear-cut evidence.

Sooner or later, the public will lose trust on doctors and the litigation rate will reach a very high level indeed. As you can see, the litigation rate is already going up day by day in major towns, especially in Klang Valley. Due to some bad apples, everyone will suffer one day………………….. and with the current quality of doctors being produced, the situation will only get worst………………

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I came across the info below in one of the medical student’s blog (http://www.facebook.com/TheAvicennaProject). It seems the info was given to them when our MOH warlords met some of the medical students in UK. I think MOH should spend more time cleaning up their mess locally with oversupply and underqualified doctors.

Firstly, let me clarify that there are some mistakes in the info provided. No doubt that the new salary scheme that will be introduced soon (SBPA) will increase the basic salary of all government servants. This type of review will occur every 10 years. However I notice from the SPA website:  http://www.spa.gov.my/Portal/Deskripsi_Tugas_SBPA/Ijazah/1604 that the starting salary for Housemen ( if you do get a job) will be RM 2460 and not RM 26++ as mentioned. After adding all the allowances, the total will be RM 4660. After minus EPF(11%) and PCB (Tax), your take home salary will be around RM 3900. Your COLA allowance can vary between RM 150 and RM 300, depending on your location.

The time based promotion was announced in 2010 when SSM was in place. When SBPA was announced, there was no mention whether the same scenario will apply. I say this because the teachers had a totally separate circular when SBPA was announced where the time based promotion was clearly mentioned but this was not the case for doctors. NO separate circular was issued: http://www.jpa.gov.my/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=137. Assuming the time based promotion is still applicable, you will reach U54 ( U1-6) after 12 years of service as a medical officer and 9 years of service as a specialist.

The assumption below that the salary for U54 MO will be RM 12000, is incorrect. Under SBPA, the starting salary for U54 (U1-6) is RM 7110 with Housing allowance of 900, entertainment allowance 800, COLA 300, critical allowance 750 which makes a total of RM 9860 before EPF and PCB deduction. If you are a specialist, the specialist allowance will be RM 2800. So, you will never get RM 12000 after 12 years of service as a MO. Your take home will be around RM 8200 for MO.

One info that surprised me is about Master’s application. It is mentioned that you can apply for Masters only after 5 years of service ( 2 years HO and 3 years MO). Well, I presume with the limited number of post ( 800-1000) per year and glut of doctors that are being produced, this is very likely to happen. That is what I have been saying all this while ( over the past 2 years) where only 10% of the doctors are going to get a post for postgraduate training.

After SBPA was announced, JPA did mention that the allowances will also be reviewed and many may be removed or adjusted. I have a strong feeling that some of the allowances will be removed. As for doctors, the critical allowance will be removed once all the posts are filled as what they did with the “on-call” allowance for housemen.

I was told recently that MOs are being sent to Klinik 1Malaysia now as I predicted a year ago. This is because most of the post in klinik kesihatan in major states are also becoming full. In Johor, all district hospitals MO post are full! I wonder what is going to happen in 3-5 years time when all our grandiose medical schools begin to produce graduates at maximum capacity?? you still think doctors cannot be jobless?

The recent jobless nurses scenario is a clear example. MOH has sent a circular to all private hospitals asking them to provide data on how many nurses they are employing and how many fresh graduates they have taken!! As I told you : ” Foot in the Mouth” syndrome…………………….. We have seen nursing graduates with no credit in Maths and Science in SPM!! WTH……………… it’s all about money, in the name of education hub…………………..

Wakil KKM:

Datuk Dr Norhisham Abdullah – Ketua Penolong Pengarah (sth sth)

Datuk Yahya

Wakil Talent Corp: Pn Shereen

Wakil JPA: Encik Amran

Students: Medic /dentistry/pharmacy students in UK

  1. Hospital baru yang bakal dibina/sedang dibina
  • Shah Alam
  • Parit buntar,
  • Kampar,
  • perak tengah,
  • dungun,
  • national cancer institute,
  • cataract centre
  1. 2.     Gaji
  • System gaji dalam proses transisi dari SSM (skim saran Malaysia) kepada SPBA (system saran baru perkhidmatan awam
  • SSM (dulu) : gaji pokok UD41 ( taxable plus minus 18%) = RM 2458, maksimum RM 5317
  • SPBA (sekarang): RM 26xx maksimum RM 6755
  • Gaji di atas tak termasuk allowance lain;

a)    Servis: RM 300

b)    Rumah: RM 250

c)     COLA: Rm 300

d)    Critical service: RM 750

e)    Hardship posting ( pedalaman ) : + 10% from basic , regional (borneo): =17.5% frm basic

f)     Oncall (fixed): RM 600

** allowance ini bertambah bila naik gred tangga gaji/specialist etc.

** BENEFITS: FREE MEDICAL SERVICE FOR PARENTS, SPOUSE & CHILDREN , PENSION AFTER 30 YR OF SERVICE; 60% OF FINAL SALARY, ANNUAL LEAVE; 25 DAYS, MATERNITY LEAVE: LADIES 90 DAYS, GENTS 7 DAYS. ELAUN PENGKEBUMIAN-RM 3000 (JIKA MATI- KIRA FAMILY  LAA DAPAT, DUIT TAK BOLEH MASUK KUBUR) NB!!- BENEFITS MAKIN BANYAK BILA GRED NAIK.

3. Promotion

  • Now, its time-based promotion, regardless of your performance, as long as you don’t have any disciplinary problems etc, you will be promoted according to how long you have served. ( macam GURU)
  • Selepas 2 tahun perkhidmatan- gred akan naik kepada UD44 (gaji naik ~RM 1000)
  • 3 tahun kemudiannya- gred UD8 ( tambah lagi ~ RM 1000)
  • 4 tahun kemudiannya- gred UD 52
  • 3 tahun kemudiannya- gred UD 54

( makanya, kerja dalam 12 tahun, kasar dapat dalam RM 12 000 termasuk elaun; kalau jadi specialist tinggi lagi laaa kot ^^ )

  1. 4.     Posting houseman
  • Selepas mtamat pengajian, lapor diri pada penaja, SPA dan pre-reg dengan MMC . Pre-reg sah untuk 3 tahun/
  • 6 postings wajib ( medicine, ortho, surgery, O&G, Paeds, AND anaesth OR A&E(posting akhir) )
  • Satu posting lebih kurang 4 bulan, posting ke-5 jika lulus semuanya boleh mula mendaftar untuk full registration dari MMC.
  • Sebelum setiap posting ada 2/52 of tagging, dan untuk computerized hospital seperti selayang plus 1/52 of tagging untuk ICT training.
  • Sekiranya bermasalah dengan kemahiran dll, masa posting akan dilanjutkan kepada 3 bulan lagi. Maksimum postings boleh kena extension- 3 ( kalau tak silap, sebelum di pertimbangkan untuk dilucut jawatan )
  • Masa lanjutan posting yang kali ketiga akan dilakukan di hospital lain.
  1. 5.     Sambung belajar.
  • Permohonan boleh dibuat setelah 5 tahun ( 2 tahun HO + 3 tahun MO)
  • Masters-  4 years program
  • Secara kasar, dalam setahun ada 800 tempat kosong ( keberangkalian 1/10)
  • Sekiranya, anda ditempatkan di Borneo dalam masa 5 tahun pertama, peluang anda semakin cerah.

7. Shift system

  • 8am-5pm: this is the prime time when teaching etc takes place, so, as much as possible they want everyone to be around during these hours.
  • The 1st shift: 5pm-12am. Kiranya continue from the day 8am until 12 am, pass over to the shift and off you go. 8 am tomorrow datang balik kerja.
  • The 2nd shift or “graveyard shift”: 12am-8am. Receive handover sampai pagi . Passover tapi kena stay dekat hospital sampai pukul 2pm baru boleh balik.

 

 

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The news below made the headline in NST today. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry! I will leave it to the readers to decide. Everyday, our politicians seem to be making a fool out of themselves. Our country is becoming a laughing-stock of the world!

I will say this again that it is all about money and some political connection. How many universities do we really need ? do we have that many academics to run these universities? when even our own public universities do not have enough teaching staff?

Anyone who works in these so-called ” universities” knows what hanky-panky things that goes inside. Just read this comment that was posted in my blog recently:

Dr P, my sister did A-levels as a prep course to study medicine in the UK in this college.. because MARA sent her there. basically MARA simply sent students to any new mushrooming colleges (to support these ‘bumiputra’ colleges) and take a gamble with their students’ future. my sister said the college knows nothing about a-levels for medicine. for medical school applications in the UK, the a levels students basically need confidential reports to be submitted and the teachers NEVER did it until the last minute when in the end they ASKED the student to write it themselves… it was really awful. the quality of teaching given was horrible that many students had to resit their papers due to poor grades, when these students were initially top SPM students. and not to mention accomodation provided as well… the standards were very poor. they tried to fit 14 students into one small single storey terraced house. for this college to start a medical school…its just unimaginable. “

I am very sure few more medical schools will be on the cards. Trust me! The politicians do not know anything about medical degree recognition etc etc. Even our PM is not aware about it ( how he made a fool out of himself when he launched Perdana University !: https://pagalavan.com/2011/05/21/is-this-a-joke-psd-students-among-100-in-first-intake-for-johns-hopkins/) Many of these foreign varsities just want to make money as the cost of education in their country is becoming too high for foreign students. Thus many are unable to attract foreign students to make money. So, they bring their brand name to our country and try to make money!

Education should never be politicised or commercialised! It is a disaster in waiting!

Welcome to the land of Varsities. We have not only recorded our name in Guinness World Book of Records as the country with most number of medical schools percapita and the fastest growing medical schools, we will be in as the country with most number of universities as well ………….

More varsities coming

25 apply to set up campuses in Malaysia Datuk Seri Mohd Khaled Nordin says the higher learning sector will boost Malaysia’s growth

MALAYSIA is morphing into a key destination for foreign universities, with 25 applications received to set up campuses here. Interest in the tertiary education sector has shifted to a higher gear, said Higher Education Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Khaled Nordin. The latest applicants allowed to set up campuses here were University of Reading and Heriot-Watt University, both from the United Kingdom. “We’ve even received applications to set up new private universities from established players although their internal policies don’t allow them to set up branches abroad. “There are also foreign investors who have no affiliation with any university, but keen to set up new universities in Malaysia.”

The Manipal International University and Vinayaka Mission International University College were instances of new foreign universities in the country. Universities that involve foreign entities are the Al-Madinah International University, INTI International University, Perdana University, Malaysia Institute for Supply-Chain Innovation and Raffles University Iskandar Malaysia. Khaled said many of the applications came from developed nations like the United States, Britain, Australia and Switzerland as well as from the United Arab Emirates, China, India, Nepal and Singapore.

He said he expected to receive more applications, especially from Europe and West Asia, following economic uncertainty and political discord in some of these places. “Investors set their sights on nations that promise good returns and stability for their investments. Malaysia offers these as it has a stable political and economic climate and is free from natural disasters. “We have a strong quality control system via Malaysia Quality Framework, undertaken by the Malaysia Quality Agency. We also have tax incentives and a liberal higher education policy.” Malaysia ranks 11th as the chosen destination for international students to further their studies. It controls two per cent of the total international students’ market. Khaled said the country had much to offer with its strategic location, infrastructure, large land deposit for development, lower operational costs and with English spoken widely as the second language.

“We have the Iskandar Development corridor in Johor and the Kuala Lumpur Education City in Negri Sembilan.” As such, Khaled said the higher learning sector was poised to be the key engine of growth as Malaysia moved towards a developed and high-income status. This had boosted the country’s reputation as one that possesses quality higher education on a par with developed countries and becoming Asia’s leading education hub, he said. “Foreign universities are careful and sensitive in their selection of locations to set up their campuses abroad. “When Malaysia is chosen by several world-renowned universities, it shows that our tertiary education sector has reached a higher level.” By 2015, more than 150,000 international students were expected to pick Malaysia as their choice, he said.

On whether having foreign campuses would threaten local institutions of higher learning, Khaled believed this would create competitiveness among universities. Most developed nations exported their higher learning products to expand their networks of cooperation to reach those in the developing and Third World countries, he added. To strengthen and boost the competitiveness of local universities, Khaled said the ministry had awarded autonomy status to Universiti Teknologi Malaysia, Universiti Malaya, Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia, Universiti Sains Malaysia and Universiti Putra Malaysia. Read more: More varsities coming – Top News – New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/top-news/more-varsities-coming-1.50776#ixzz1nCfG17pp

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Wait a minute, I thought I heard there was a moratorium of new medical schools, announced last year!! Then what is this advertisement doing in The Star today?

 University College Shahputra has decided to start a medical school. Anyone wants to become the dean? They have just advertised for academic position!!

Adding to my latest count , this will be the 36th medical school in the country with a total of almost 40+ concurrent programmes……………. for a population of 27 million!!

 

 

 

 

 

They have also added the following advert on their website:

I have said this many times that Foundation studies is a way for the college to attract students and to keep them in the college for various courses. Even though the curriculum is monitored by LAN but the exams are not standardised. The college themselves set, conduct and mark the papers.

I also saw this 2 page comment from MAHSA college about the jobless nursing graduates in the Star today:

I find it rather interesting of how the college is trying to justify things. Our Ex DG is currently the VC of MAHSA University. They claim that their nurses are highly employable and have inserted the names of nurses who have gained employment in foreign countries on the 2nd page of their “advert”. The confusion it seems is due to diploma in healthcare and diploma in paramedic (by other colleges) which are being referred to as “nursing” course. However, according to the info they have provided, the nurses to population ratio currently is at 1: 384 and the country is targeting 1: 200 by 2020. Now, let me ask you: if you are producing 12, 000 nurses per year now, when do you thing you will achieve the magic figure of 1: 200? I would say, probably in another 2 years ! So, isn’t the jobless scenario which is already beginning to happen now will only get worst?

God save the country……………………….

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Pharmacist oh Pharmacist !!

There seem to be conflicting statements in the newspapers about this jobless pharmacy issue. But if you read carefully between the lines, you will realise that the government is running out of post. The SBPA was only introduced in December 2011 but majority of the pharmacist who made the complains applied for job in August 2011 etc. So, why the long delay ?

In Oct 2011, I wrote this https://pagalavan.com/2011/10/06/i-told-you-so/ when the government reduced the compulsory service of pharmacist from 4 years to 2 years. By that time, the pharmacist post in civil service was already almost 90% full. Thus, the government felt that by reducing the compulsory service, many will resign from civil service and this will create more vacant post.

If you see our Minister’s response, he said that the government may soon allow pharmacist to do their compulsory service in private sector. What does that mean? It indirectly tells us that the post in civil service is almost full. I also doubt the figure provided by Malaysian Pharmaceutical Society’s president that we are producing only 1000 pharmacist per year. I think it is much higher than that. If each public university produces 200 students, it is already be more than 1000/year!!

However, I feel there will be a lot of vacancies in private sector once the 1Care system is introduced. Based on my entry https://pagalavan.com/2012/02/03/for-future-doctors-the-change-is-coming-part-2/, many community pharmacies will be needed and created to dispense medication under the 1Care system. This will definitely create more job opportunities. Probably that is the reason why the government is liberalising the training system as mentioned by our great health minister.

Who knows, maybe they might do the same for doctors soon. Unfortunately I don’t think private hospitals will be interested in employing housemen. Consultants are self-employed anyway!

Pharmacy grads will have jobs, minister says

By Lisa J. Ariffin
February 14, 2012
KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 14 — Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai assured unemployed pharmacy graduates today they will have jobs soon.The health minister blamed the delay of a salary scale for civil servants under a revised government remuneration scheme for the lack of jobs.

“Lately, the bit of delay of employing our pharmacists into our system is due to the new SBPA that has been deferred,” Liow (picture) said.

He assured the new pharmacists they will be recruited as soon as possible.

Liow said the government was working to bridge the public-private healthcare divide and will soon be able to offer more jobs to new pharmacy graduates.

“To say that we don’t have enough positions to cater is not true,” Liow said, responding to recent reports highlighting pharmacy graduates who claim they have been jobless as far back as eight months ago.

“In fact we are liberalising our policy, we would like to allow our pharmacists to work either in government or private (sectors),” he told reporters following the launch of a pharmaceutical industry fact here.

He said his ministry had even liberated attachment conditions for fresh graduates and was taking in more pharmacy graduates annually.

“We are engaging and we are employing more pharmacists from year to year,” the minister said.

Liow said that previously, pharmacy graduates were required to train a year and practise another three years at public hospitals in order to obtain their practising licence. The scheme was known as one-plus-three.

However, in October last year, the three-year attachment condition was slashed to only one year, meaning pharmacy graduates only needed to train a year and practise another year to win their practising licence.

The MCA deputy president also pointed out that pharmacists were no longer limited to train in public hospitals and clinics.

“We allow pharmacists to have compulsory training in private training, not only in government sector,” he said.

“They are allowed training in pharmaceutical companies. So this is the kind of flexibility that we have introduced,” he added.

An oversupply of potential recruits coupled with a shortage of pharmacy-related positions were initially blamed for the lack of vacancies leading to disgruntlement among the new pharmacy graduates, according to media reports.

However, graduates now believe their applications for placement were unsuccessful due to the review of the New Public Service Remuneration Scheme (SBPA), which Liow acknowledged today.

He said, “It is due to the salary scale that is under review now, but we will continue to engage them at the old salary scale because the SBPA is under review now.”

Bitter pill for pharmacy grads

By REGINA LEE regina@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: It is not just nurses who are finding it hard to get job placement in public hospitals pharmacy graduates are also in a similar quandary.   However, unlike the job shortage for nurses, which was blamed on oversupply and not meeting market demands, pharmacy graduates believe that their applications for placement were unsuccessful due to issues connected with the New Public Service Remuneration Scheme (SBPA).   Pharmacy graduates have to serve a mandatory training placement at public hospitals before they can obtain a practising licence.   The Health Ministry’s previous requirement was a one-year training and three-year attachment stint in public hospitals.

Last October, the three-year attachment condition was slashed to one. Public Service Department (PSD) director-general Tan Sri Abu Bakar Abdullah said the SBPA should not have any effect on the intake of pharmacy graduates for training purposes.

“This cannot be happening. They shouldn’t be treated like that and I sympathise with their plight,” he said, adding that he would raise the matter with ministry officials.   Health Director-General Datuk Seri Dr Hasan Abdul Rahman pledged to resolve the problem by Feb 24. “Pharmacists, doctors and dentists must do compulsory government service.

“The problem (of not getting placements) has nothing to do with the allocation of places in public hospitals or the salary scheme,” he said, adding that he would meet the PSD today to discuss the issue.   Malaysian Pharmaceutical Society president Datuk Nancy Ho said there were about 8,900 registered pharmacists in the country, with a pharmacy-patient ratio of 1:3,200.

“This is still far from the World Health Organisation’s recommendation of one pharmacist for every 2,000 people,” she said, adding that almost 1,000 pharmacy graduates were being churned out each year.

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Monday February 13, 2012

Their dream of becoming a pharmacist remains distant

PETALING JAYA: After six years of studying, Sara had been eager to fulfil her life-long dream of becoming a pharmacist.   But that dream remains distant — she has been unemployed over the past eight months.

She is among possibly hundreds of other pharmacy graduates in the same boat.   A graduate of Indonesia’s Universitas Gadjah Mada, Sara (not her real name) said her 11 coursemates had also applied for their one-year public hospital training stint last August.     In a quandary: Many pharmacy graduates have applied for a training stint in public hospitals but have yet to get placement.

“We were told by our seniors that it would only take about a month to get a placement in a public hospital.   “I was called for an interview at the end of August and I am still waiting for news,” she told The Star.

Each time she called the Public Service Department (PSD), she was told that the delay was due to the review of the New Public Service Remuneration Scheme (SBPA).   “While waiting, I worked at a private pharmacy to gain some experience. But I resigned after just one month when told that the offer letter would be issued anytime,’’ she lamented.   John, another pharmacy graduate, said he had been trying to get a placement for his one-year training after graduating from Glasgow’s University of Strathclyde last July.   Like Sara, he applied for his training in August and thought that he would land a placement in a public hospital by November.   “Most companies would want their part-timers to commit for at least two months. If I had known that I would be unemployed for more than six months, I would have definitely found a job,” he said, adding that up to 40 graduates from his batch had also not got placements.   “When we studied to become pharmacists, people were always saying that there was a shortage in the field. But it has been crazy just waiting for a placement,’’ he added.

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1 year ago, I wrote this article : https://pagalavan.com/2011/01/02/for-future-doctors-what-if/. It is about what happens if you quit housemanship. Recently I came across a blog of a houseman who I presume has resigned as a doctor due to reasons mentioned in his blog : http://chroniclesofaloner.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/a-letter-to-the-dg/

At the same time, he has also written some suggestion of what you can do if you quit housemanship http://chroniclesofaloner.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/life-after-medicine/. I found it quite interesting and decided to mention it in my blog.

As for his reasons for quitting housemanship, I have been saying it all the while that medicine is not about having good life. Recently, I received an email from a houseman who is thinking about quitting medicine. This is what she wrote:

Despite financial constrain, I borrowed almost 200k from various place, worked part-time in fast food shops and do a few odd jobs to earn money, to complete the mission which i have started. I studied day and night and obtained decent results to work as a doctor in Malaysia. I came to Malaysia with a lot of dreams. Good job, good money and good life. I didn’t begin my job properly. Because, i’m confuse with many things. What i learn partially different than what I am doing. I am trying to learn. But they are not giving me space to grow. Money doesn’t matter anymore. My life has gone. Now, because of these unethical educated bullies, i have lost my confidence, self-esteem and dignity in front of a lot of people. I can earn money anywhere. But not my LIFE. I scared and worried that I will be mentally ill through the torture that I am going through at hospital. I might be just one of the victims. But, still I am. Enough is Enough. Unless the system is reviewed and properly structured, i bet more mentally and emotionally ill doctors will be produced. Others can name me anything. But they can never feel, what i does deep within me. This is definitely not part and parcel of doctors life. DOCTORS don’t deserves this humiliation. They deserve better treatment. Professional must go through professional and ethical training. In short, we want doc’s Life and not dog’s Life.

I told her that the biggest mistake she made is thinking that she is going to have “Good job, good money and good life” as a doctor. That never happens! If you go back to all my postings since 2010 under For Future Doctors series, I have constantly said that if you are doing medicine for these reasons, you will definitely be frustrated. Whether there are seniors who are bullies or not, the job is tough and there is no such thing as good life. The shift duties has definitely reduced the workload but not responsibility. Your responsibility increases as you go higher in medical field. I told her that I work 24hrs a day and 7 days a week single-handedly. How can I handle this ? because I have gone thru tougher times before! Taking huge loans is not a good idea either!

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I am sure many of you wanted to rant something after reading my articles over the last few days regarding jobless nurses, brainless Ministry of Health, compulsory rural posting for specialists and very soon, jobless doctors!

Well, in Johor we have a Land For Rant! You can come here and rant whatever you want! Sounds like Speaker’s Corner? It is situated opposite Setia Tropika housing estate when you take the old road from Pontian to Gelang Patah/second link.

IT’s a big land indeed!

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Today, Berita Harian  made a front page report that KKM has made it compulsory for all specialist, especially the newly qualified,  to serve in rural areas for atleast 6 months. The following circular below was issued on 5/01/2012.

It also says that all Housemen who completes housemanship in Klang Valley will be transferred out (page 16) and any transfer back will only be entertained after 3 years of service except in certain special situation (page 20). For those who are being transferred to East Malaysia, you may request to transfer back in 2 years. Of course, if you are accepted into Master’s programme, you will be transferred to the training centre.

In July 2006, I wrote an article in MMA Magazine ” Future of Government Doctors: Die Another Day? “ https://pagalavan.com/my-mma-articles/july-2006future-of-government-doctors-die-another-day/. This was my last sentence:  “There will come a time that we would be told that “if you don’t like the system, you may leave”. Since the “World Is Not Enough” we would be asked to go all over the country for promotions since the posts available are going to be limited. We can “Never Say Never Again”. The administrators are NOT going to be “The Spy Who Loved Us” but rather they would become “Goldfingers” and “Thunderballs”. In near future (not long, just another 5-7 years!), we are going to become “Dr. No– body and since “You Only Live Once” and not twice, we will “Die Another Day”……………or we may just end up playing “Casino Royale”…………..”     How true has it become!

Since Housemanship is being given on contract basis, it makes it much easier for MOH/SPA to force people to go to rural areas. If you don’t want to go, you may become jobless. Only if you accept the offer, the contract may be renewed or you may be accepted into permanent civil service

As for specialist, you may be transferred out to rural hospitals after your gazettement for a 6 months posting. In “circular” language, 6 months means 1 year as the paper work to transfer back will take a few months. They may make this compulsory in order for you to be accepted into subspeciality training programme. Overall, you may need to wait 1 year after gazettement for subspeciality training, depending on the waiting list. From 2011, all specialist who were accepted into subspeciality training will be bonded for atleast 3 years, not including the 5-7 years bond for your Master’s programme.

I feel that all doctors should serve in rural areas during their life as a doctor. You will learn alot especiallly about social circumstances and working with limited facilities. However, I feel that a doctor who had already served the rural area as a MO etc, should not be forced to do it again.

As I keep saying, life is not going to be easy for future doctors………….

circular : PANDUAN PENEMPATAN DAN PERTUKARAN PEGAWAI

Wajib ke luar bandar

2012/02/08

Doktor pakar dikehendaki bertugas 6 bulan di pedalaman


KUALA LUMPUR: Doktor pakar yang menjalani latihan di kawasan bandar kini diwajibkan berkhidmat di luar bandar dan pedalaman termasuk Sabah dan Sarawak selama enam bulan sebelum diberi pilihan untuk bertukar berkhidmat ke kawasan lain.

Ketua Pengarah Kesihatan, Datuk Seri Dr Hasan Abdul Rahman, berkata arahan itu terkandung dalam Panduan Penempatan Doktor Pakar bagi Tempoh Enam Bulan di Hospital Luar Bandar yang dikeluarkan Disember lalu bagi mengimbangi penempatan doktor di luar bandar dan pedalaman.

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