As I have said before, soon the government will introduce a common exam for all medical graduates from overseas. The news in Start today by our Director General of Health is the clearest indications of that. However, we need to wait till the Medical Act is amended, which will likely take place this year or after the general election.
BUT I do not agree that this will only apply for the foreign medical schools. No doubt that it is difficult to monitor the quality of foreign medical schools by the Malaysian Medical Council. As such, like most other countries, the best way will be to ask everyone who graduate from overseas to sit a common exam to be able to get a job in Malaysia. I wonder whether it will apply for JPA and MARA scholars as well but usually JPA students should not have any problems as they are the top students in the country. Can’t say the same for MARA students as the drop out rate for MARA medical students internationally is almost 30% (this info is from MARA itself).
I feel the MMC should come up with a structured exam for the local private and public universities as well,or at least have periodic inspection to monitor their lecturer ratio, teaching quality and entry qualifications. The quality of their graduates should also be monitored. With unemployed doctors being a distant reality, I just hope parents will stop thinking that medicine will give their child a luxury life!
Exam for docs won’t cause brain drain
By LOH FOON FONG
newsdesk@thestar.com.my
PETALING JAYA: A proposed amendment to the Medical Act to compel all overseas medical graduates to sit for a common licensing examination will not worsen the brain drain situation, Health Ministry director-general Tan Sri Dr Ismail Merican said.
“The Malaysian Medical Council examinations are not meant to make things difficult for them but to assess their core knowledge. They should not worry if they have passed their university examinations,” he said.
Dr Ismail, who is also Malaysian Medical Council president, said in view of the weakness in monitoring foreign institutions, the council had proposed to do away with the Second Schedule of the Medical Act, containing the list of recognised foreign medical schools.
“Students can choose any university they wish to attend abroad but they have to sit for and pass a common licensing examination before being accepted for registration,” he said, adding that this was practised in many developed countries.
The proposed examination, which would be different from the current Medical Qualifying Examination for students from unrecognised universities abroad, would ensure that doctors were “fit to practise” as safe and competent doctors, he said.
Recently, Health Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai said the examination was one of the proposals it was looking into when amending the Act.
Although the Malaysian Medical Association and senior doctors had suggested that all medical graduates be made to sit for a common examination, Liow said it would only apply to overseas graduates.
It was not necessary for local graduates to sit for the examination as local institutions were easier to monitor, officials said.
However, senior doctors advocated otherwise, claiming that local schools could lower passing grades to make their universities look good.
Recently, The Star reported on the lack of training hospitals to meet the influx of housemen and a doctor had expressed concerns that some graduates lacked core knowledge and could jeopardise patient safety.
Asked where people could get advice on medical schools that met the country’s requirements if the Second Schedule was removed, Dr Ismail said they could get this from colleges and the council.
Hello, doc,
Im a medical student , currently studying in a unrecognized medical university . I need some clarifications regarding this paragraph….
“The proposed examination, which would be different from the current Medical Qualifying Examination for students from unrecognised universities abroad, would ensure that doctors were “fit to practise” as safe and competent doctors, he said.”
what they meant by?
Actually i do not worry about any qualifying exam in Malaysia. MEQ is just like a another final year exam for me.
Currently the MQE is not standardised. Basically it is the final exam of UM,UKM and USM. So, now the MMC and MOH wants to standardise the exam and make it compulsory for all foreign degree holders to sit before getting a job!
I see that you’re also studying in an unrecognised university. Let me tell you something. I studied in a very good university too but it was not recognised because there wasn’t enough ppl of a certain color! Some of my classmates and I scored very well, but when we came back, we were made to look like fools during the MQE Elective attachments. Worse still, they failed everyone (regardless if you’re good or bad) and made us wait from November to January to hear the so called ‘FAILED’ results. No matter how good / hardworking you are, chances to pass this exam is extremely NIL, unless by luck you manage to get USM as your exam center.
From the months we’ve spent wasting our time here, this is what some of my friends and other unrecognised medical graduates I heard are doing :
1) They get an agent to help them redo their final 6th year semester in a recognised university, then they come back as so called recognised graduates and manage to work with the blessings of MMC!
2) If you have lots of money, change your exam centre to USM, get some influential politician…and ahem…u know what to do! You need stronger politicians and more $$$ for UM and UKM.
3) Do locum illegally in some God forsaken place. Pay is good what..RM35/hour!
4) Some illegally change from unrecognised universities to recognised universities via Agents (especially in Kursk, RSMU, MMA, Nizhny Novgorad, Volgograd, CSMU-Although it has been derecognised, USU and other university’s in Indonesia. Agents will do magic (with the agent’s fee you pay) and ask the university to release a brand new transcript for you indicating that you studied in the recognised university from Year 1 itself…and Voila you’re considered a recognised graduate when you come home….and these are the ppl that MMC is so happy to absorb into the housemanship system!!!!!
5) Stay at home like me (if you don’t agree to all those cheating methods as I’ve mentioned above), do some other legal work and wait for the day justice is met in this country!!! (maybe you have to wait till hari kiamat!)
Let me tell you that MQE IS NOT AN EXAM! IT’S JUST A GIMMICK BY MMC TO SHUT YOU OUT OF THE SYSTEM. THE PASSING RATE IS NEARLY 0%! DON’T BE SO CONFIDENT THAT MQE IS JUST LIKE ANOTHER FINAL SEMESTER PAPER. IT IS NOT!!!!!!! MARKING IS BASED ON MANY OTHER SUBJECTIVE BIAS PARAMETERS….AND CHANCES ARE, YOU WON’T QUALIFY! THINK CAREFULLY!!!
VICTIM OF MQE!
hello victim of MQE ….
i want to know there is any intensive classes will b provided by USM,UKM or UM before sitting for the MQE ???
I am a graduate of a medicine school in Romania which is not recognised by MMC. I would like some details regards the medicine exam to enable my qualification in medicine to be recognised in Malaysia. What is the format of the exam? Is it in English. Is there a theory and practical component or just theory? Is there a syllabus on what has to be learnt and the recommended textbooks. Pls let me know
Obviously it is in English. Today’s paper reported that 16 universities/medical schools will now conduct the MQE exams. However it is not standardised. You will be sitting the same final year exams whcih is conducted for their own students. Depending on which uni you are allocated, you can find out about the format of the exams.
thanks alot doc
hello Doctor,
I, sk.shaheena, completed M.B.B.S and i have 2years of experience excluding internship. I am planning to work there as my spouse is moving to malaysia.Can you tell me the requirements to work as a medical officer in malaysia?
I am from India. I have read some blogs, in that they mentioned not to be married and not to have children. Is this correct information doctor? Because I am having a 5months old baby. I am confused with various blogs information.
thanks
I presume your spouse is a Malaysian. Well, as long as you are a registered doctor in India(with Indian Medical Council) and your undergraduate degree is recognised in Malaysia, you can apply for a contract job in Ministry of Health Malaysia. It has nothing to do whether you are married or having children. It is just that, you may be sent anywhere in malaysia and not necessarily where you request to work.
I wonder the medical schools that we have to focus is from which countries, as a new generation of medical students with great interest in doing medicine, i’m worrying from what you have written. Many of my classmates , with A-level results of CCC or DDD even studying medicine in Manipal in India, Segi Malaysia. The problem arises here is they didn’t even Q/C of these local unis
That’s exactly what I have been saying. Any tom dick and harry with money seem to be able to do medicine in this country!
CCC DDD? Are you kidding?
What proportion of students have such results? Dont mean to sound snobby or too academically oriented… but SERIOUSLY?
I’m a medical student currently studying in recognised medical university abroad.Doctor i have a question, is this medical act for the students who are studying medicine or just for those going to persue their studies in medicine???
at the moment , the gov says that only students who are going to do medicine overseas after the medical act is amended will be affected.So, those who are already overseas will not be affected. However, the government may change their mind anytime especiallly when they realise that the number of doctors are increasing exponentially.
Hi I’m SPM leaver and I was shocked when I read about the jobless doctor that will happen soon in Malaysia. My parent would want me to pursuit in medic even after I explain about this problem.In their opinion, it will not a problem when after doing a houseman, you can open your own clinic or take a part-time in several clinic. Doctor, will this can solve the jobless doctor that will be occur in my age?
TQ
First of all, you need to ask yourself whether you have the passion to do medicine and become a doctor. Don’t do medicine just because your parents say so, especially when they are not doctors themselves. The problem is whether you will get a place to do housemanship or not, in the first place!! Without completing housemanship you cannot practise anywhere as a doctor. It is not about what happens after housemanship!!
Finally, even opening a clinic after 4 years of compulsory service is not easy anymore. The latest survey shows that only 30% of GPs are actually earning more than 6K net profit a month!! Not worth it!
Sir ,i’m a medical graduate.i did my M.B.B.S. from Nepal altough i’m an Indian.I will sit for MCI exam .can i work in malaysia or i have to give any exam? can u tell me the procedure ……please….thanking u
Sir ,i’m a medical graduate.i did my M.B.B.S. from Nepal altough i’m an Indian.I will sit for MCI exam .can i work in malaysia or i have to give any exam? can u tell me the procedure ……please….thanking u
Are you looking for an Internship post? If so, as a foreigner you will not be able to get a job as an intern unless you are married to a Malaysian.
Pagal
Dear Sir, very informative article, i am a medical student that recently graduated from an unrecognized university, i got cheated by an agent n i had no choice but to pursue my studies in the unrecognized university because i was forced to pay a large sum of capital fees before i joined the Uni. anyways, i have graduated now, and looking for my best option to register myself and start working, but thinking about taking the MQE and its passing rate is somewhat scaring me,can u please spare some time to give me your best advice on what is the best thing for me to do so that i can get myself registered and start working sir. please help me, thank u and have a nice day
You got no choice other than passing the MQE in order to work in this country. Yes, the MQE is tough and there are a lot of biasness. Please do as much attachment in the hospital where you are going to sit for the exam and get close to the lecturers there before sitting for the exam.
When is this going to change?..When will the biasness be taken away? I spoke to one of the local agents and he said very soon they are going to make it compulsory for all the student who finish abroad and locally to sit for the MQE, and he said I have a better chance of passing the exam when that rule is implemented, but I think it will just worsen the situation. Lets keep our fingers crossed and hope all will be blessed. Thank U so very much for your time Doc.
I think you are not keeping up to date. The common entrance exam for all foreign doctors has been scrapped!! Pls readr my homepage!!
Sir ,i’m a medical graduate.i did my M.B.B.S and i finished my internship from china altough i’m an Indian.I will sit for MCI exam .can i work in malaysia or i have to give any exam in malaysia? can u tell me the procedure ……please….thanking u
You’re an Indian citizen? Pls contact Malaysian Medical Council to find out whether your degree is recognised.
Hellow i am a pakistani doctor,my basic degree not recognized by MMC.i am graduate of 1999.Now i am a postraduate gynecology & obs,my postgraduate degree is FCPS from Pakistan,which is equavalent to MS here.Now a days i am in Malaysia as a house wife as my husband work here. i want to work in my field here.can you please tell me,will i be able to appear in the said exam and get a job here?
If I am not mistaken, FCPS is also not recognised here in Malaysia. You need to get in touch with MMC and NSR for further info.
Sir,plz can you tell me, if a doctor holding MRCOG from UK(which is recognized by NSR)but with basic medical degree not recognized here,then can he get job here?
Can try for contract job in government hospitals in Malaysia. BUT you can be sent anywhere in Malaysia and not necessarily your current town.
sir..im malaysian…and my boy friend is an indian who currently graduated from russia.he havent pass MCA in india…but he would like to work in malaysia…as well doing intenship as other malaysian doctor…can u explain the ways to apply and steps???
As a foreigner, you will not be able to get an internship post in Malaysia unless he is married to you and his degree is recognised by MMC.
we are still young and im still doing my medical degree.we havent plan to get married yet. so any other way to get job in malaysia??any entrance exam for foreingner??or is it neccesary that he must pass the MCA in malaysia and then only can apply job???
It is better for him to do his intership in India and then apply for a medical officer post in Malaysia, assuming his degree is recognised in Malaysia.
Pagal
Sir,
i’m an indian,i did my M.B.B.S from kathmandu medical college,Nepal.I’ve finished my internship.I gave MCI exam,result will come soon,can u tell me sir wheather i’ll able to work in malaysia or not?
I’ll b very much thankful if u reply me.
Thanking you
Firstly you need to check with Malaysian Medical Council whether your degree is recognised or not. PLs check at http://www.mmc.gov.my.
Dear sir,
First of all, i would like to thank you for all the imformative articles you have post. My question would be regrading pre-u programes. I am a SPM student, whom been thinking about getting into pre-u programes such as A-level or AUSMAT next year. However, i have applied for Malaysian Matriculation. My question to you, sir would be about choosing a suitable pre-u programes to study for medicine. I hope you could give me our opinion on this matter.
Thank You.
The best will still be STPM, A Level, IB or Australian Matriculation. Pls read all my other postings before deciding to do medicine. By the time you finish, you may not have a job
Dear sir,
Im getting married to a malaysian next year who works in Brunei at the moment and is going to be there for a good four years.Iv completed my MBBS in India last year in an “unrecognized” institute as per the schedule. Right now im doing an emergency medicine diploma in Apollo hospitals,Chennai which is recognized by rcgp,uk. So the posts on the mqe sound frightening and i need 5 years plus experience to work in Brunei. Is the mqe the only way to work in msia?
MQE is the only way to work in Malaysia unless your postgraduate qualification is recognised. Or you can get a job with a university but not do any clinical work (i.e. can’t actually treat a patient)
Yes, it is the only way. Your emergency medicine diploma is of no use.
Dear doctors, will you kindly give suggestion on my case?
My husband is a Malaysian, but i am an Indonesian, studying medicine in an unlisted medical school. Actually it is one of the best universities here (according to our national accreditation authority), but it is not even listed in “unscheduled universities and colleges eligible to sit for the MQE” somehow.
In addition to that, I’ve told that MQE passing rate is extremely low; so low that i’m not sure whether i will be able to make it.
One of the MMC officer told me to get my MD here and practice at least 10 years as a GP or 5 years as a specialist (which means additional 4-5 years of study, making it 9-10 years in total) in order to be registered in Malaysia.
Question: is there any other options beside those 2? Well, MQE is not really an option for me, because the school is not even in the list.
I wish to serve in Malaysia, because my husband and children are Malaysians. Additional 10 years away from my family is too long for me.
We are Christian Chinese (if that matters).
Thank you for taking time reading this, and more for answering it.
MGBU
You can still try to apply to MMC to sit for the MQE exam as you are married to a Malaysian. If not they may consider after few years of working experience in Indonesia. Or try sitting for MRCP/MRCS.
Sir,
I’m an Indian,finished my MBBS from kathmandu university,I dn’t have MCI registration number,i’ve to clear MCI screening exam.Sir i want to take admission in MS (orthopaedic).Will you help me is there any college which is recognised by MCI.
THANKING YOU.
Are you talking about India or Malaysia?
Malaysia sir…Is there any chance to get admission in Malaysian university as a foreign student ……
Malaysian university do allocate few post for foreign students but you must make sure that the degree is recognised in your country and Malaysia will not give you a job.
I’m not thinking about job there sir,i want to do post graduate degree(ms orthopaedic),i’ll be very much thankful to you sir if u tell me the name of the college n university then i’ll try to know in our council whether it is recognised or not….and after then i’ll able to do the needful,hope u’ll help me sir.
Thanking you .I’ll wait for your reply sir.
Thanking you……..
Please try University of Malaya, Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia and University Science Malaysia.
Hello Dr Paga,
I’m an avid reader of your blog and really appreciate your honesty and frankness. Its certainly helped me alot. I’m reading Medicine now in the UK with 4 years to go till I graduate. Would it be possible for me to complete my housemanship in Singapore or internship in Australia? I understand it will be extremely competitive but will it help if I were to graduated with at least upper second class and possess a Singaporean PR? Are there any additional examinations I will need to take as well?
Australia may be a bit tough because you may end up being lumped together with all the other IMG’s…
But singapore is really a valid option, at least as a stepping stone to further your career. They are actively looking for doctors and have just opened new hospitals. In fact, they send people to head hunt in other countries. So your chances are very very good.
Firstly, you got a long way to go and things can change along the way. Singapore will be a better option but you must understand that Singapore is changing to residency system based on US system. I am not sure whether Malaysia will recognise this if you do have intention to come back to Malaysia. BTW, I hope you are self sponsored!
With Malaysia’s mediocre housemen, comes a generation of mediocre medical officers, training even more mediocre housemen.
With Malaysia’s mediocre medical officers, comes a generation of mediocre master’s students or MRCP holders. Especially if there is a pressure to open the floodgates to specialist position.
With Malaysia’s future mediocre specialists, why will Malaysia not recognize other Malaysians who did their specialization overseas? It should be a joy for Malaysia that Malaysians with Masters (Sg), who went through proper well constructed training program, to come back to Malaysia to serve.
Maybe the residency system is too fast tract? But I don’t see how Malaysia’s 2-3 patients per houseman, shift system without consultant ward round, 30-40 houseman per ward etc can be any better.
As they say, many times, the desire to learn is environment dependent.
Yes I am which is why I prefer to work in Singapore, I’m sorry but could you elaborate further on the residency system? How exactly does it work?
After internship you go directly into speciality training. Even the internship is modified based on what speciality you want to do.
Dear sir,
I am a Medical Officer in Anaesthesia field in more than 10 years experience,has been working in MOH of Srilanka,Graduated as a MBBS doctor in a Srilankan university which is recognized by the WHO(AVICENNA) and IMA(FAIMER) but I couldn’t found my university name in the second schedule of MMC, other than 2 other Universities of Srilanka.
I discussed with my medical council regarding this issue and they gave me a letter indicating that my university course is 5 years course and it has the same curriculum like as the other recognized universities of Srilanka.
Is it possible to get my registration at MMC ,If I appeal to MMC with this Supportive letter.?
You can try based on your experience of working for 10 years.
Thank you sir, ill try my best.
u just one crap u know that…u make me sick with ur dumb post…can u be supportive to the doctors out there…not condeming them with sarcastic remarks…doesnt mean that u have so many qualification ur the best doctor in the whole world…u must have done some mistakes too right…dont try to talk very smart…everyone is a human being….everyone need time to learn…if some people wants to be a doctor because of the parents wish what is the wrong with that?isn it a nice thing to make ur parents happy and just try the best…i dont understand with u…y dont u post something useful for houseman out there ,to tell them how to survive housemanship,to support them.give important clues….government is bad to us already ….n u make thing worse by posting some dumb posts of urs…..dont think ur too smart…..ok ..just telling u that i hate ur dumb blog…just read it while doing some google search….and pls try to be more helpful…
step 1 of problem solving is recognizing that there is a problem.
step 2 involves trying to identify it’s causes.
This “dumb blog” provides alot of #1 and serves as a forum for discussing about #2.
Recently, there have been a downwards trend in the quality of housemen, with relatively mediocre students doing medicine from private universities. This blog highlights the problems it is causing (#1).
I have a high amount of respect for Dr Pagalavan for doing all this on his own initiative –> spending time to write about things he cares about.
He’s not doing this for money… and im sure his time (a consultant’s time) is worth quite abit. He responds to questions very diligently by blogger standards and seems to have a real interest in the safety of patients.
I do not sense malice in his posts. Unlike yours. Post some intelligent comments responding to the actual content of his post and you will be taken seriously. Google “ad hominem”.
Denial symptom. Probably suddenly realised that he went into the wrong field and no turning back now. Government is bad to you? Then why you are still staying? Resign in 24 hours and go overseas.
Think before u talk and that’s the same applied to think before u blog. For me, Dr. Pagalavan applied both of the fundamental ‘law’ stated above and I fully support what he did for the future of malaysian doctor. I am not here for finger pointing but here to say a big ‘Thank You’ to such a gentleman who sacrificed his golden time juz for the future of u ‘beloved’ grandchildren in malaysia.
He could be blogging about his holiday encounter in Paris than blogging about the problem of medical student and doctors in malaysia.
fuck u u asshole…go n eat ur own shit u dumb
Hello sir, I just want to ask you something. I’m planning to do AUSMAT next year (January intake). I want to do dentistry. Preferably in local public universities. Can I apply to do dentistry in local uni’s like UM, USM with my Ausmat results? Or should I do STPM to get a place in public uni.
Will dentist be saturated in this country in coming years like medical doctors?
It would be very helpful if you could enlighten me on this. thank you. =)
Unfortunately, local public universities do not take anything other than STPM or Matriculation.
At the moment dentistry is still not saturated but I am also beginning to hear that a lot of students are doing dentistry in Indonesia and Egypt but not too bad like medicine.
USM do take other students with qualifications other than STPM and Matriculation for Medicine and Dentistry, due to its autonomy to select students since getting APEX university status. But nearly all the medical and dental students who do not take STPM and Matriculation, took A-Levels. I had never heard of any students entering USM medical or dental school using AUSMAT result.
Dear Sir
I am a medical graduate from Angles University Foundation, Philippines, and I have my permanent registration from Medical Council of India. I would like to know whether I can apply for a PG in any Malaysian University? Or whether I can apply as a medical officer in any hospital in Malaysia? I look forward to your reply, as I am unable to get a reply for this query from any other medium.
Thank You
Geoffrey
Malaysian university offers very limited number of post for Master;s programme to foreigners. You need to apply to the respective universities. However, your undergraduate degree need be recognised by Malaysian Medical Council. I don’t think you can get a MO post in Malaysia currently since we are having doctors glut recently.
Dr, im finishing my Canadian Pre-U this Jun ans im supposed to pursue medicine in India in JJM Medical College in Karnataka. I was supposed to enroll in Melaka Manippal, but it came to a shock that MMC does not want a combined results of SPM and O-levels, as i re-sat for my O-levels because i obtained a C in SPM. MMC only allows students who are doing their degree full time in overseas to have a combination of SPM and O-levels. From what i hear, the sole reason for this move is to make sure more students go overseas and and when they come back there is a medical qualifying exam which is now applicable to only those who studied in non-recognised colleges? I read about this the exam in Star Newspaper last year, but has it been implemented already?
There has always been an exam for those who graduated from unrecognised uni overseas. The initial proprosal is to have a common entry exam for all overseas graduates which was not supported by our great politicians.
As far as I know, if you have taken the complete O level subjects, should be OK unless you only sat for certain subjects which you did not do well in SPM.
Dear Sir,
I am Hassan Javed , student of final year MBBS in Sindh Medical College (DUHS) .
Sir i have a query, i am planning for my further higher studies in MALAYSIA after my MBBS . what is the procedure for applying in malaysia after simple MBBS . Is there any lincensing examination like USMLE for america ?
Kindly reply to my query
Thank you
If you are not a Malaysian, you CAN”t apply for housemanship in Malaysia unless you are married to a Malaysian.
Dear Sir,
I am a doctor in Mauritius and would like to pursue my master studies in ophthalmology in malaysia.however the univ i have graduated from, is not found in the list of recognised universities.i have completed 2 years internship here in mauritius and am already registered at the mauritius medical council.despite that,i am willing to give it a try and sit for the malaysian medical council exam.i wanted to join univ sains malaysia.ive learnt from your blog (which i find very informative!) about how bias the system is but could u please help me out?any advice on how to procede would be much appreciated.
thank you.
Are you a Malaysian? If not, I presume your changes of even taking the Malaysian MQE is very unlikely to happen. Thus, the chances of getting a Master’s post in Malaysia is even more unlikely
Thank you for ur reply!actually i am mauritian.so i guess that i better try my luck somewhere else…too bad.thanks for ur advice!:)
sir! i am a SPM leaver and currently doing my foundations and going to further my studies in RSMU(russia state medical university) and i am worry about the exam that you have mentioned earlier.. any guides for me? i am really interested in medical field but it seems that the number of doctors are overflowing and i am worry about the housemanship things and also the recognitions.
Beware of the agent that u signed up to..May i know u SPM result? Is u SPM good enough to study medicine? Anyway, the things that i wanted to highlight here is finding a trustworthy agent…Please dun be fooled by their sweet promise. if u’re into medical field juz for the sake of earning big money and be glamour, please give up medicine…..
All these foundation studies are a scam as far as I am concerned! Have you got your NOC? The exam mentioned above is not being implemented.
However with the overflowing of doctors soon, you may not get a job if you do not have NOC from MOHE. Furthermore, I would not recommend russia!
I would like to persue my degree in medicine in indonasia. My Spm results meet’s the requirement and I checked in MMC website UNiversity Sumatera Utara and University Padjajaran is a reconized university in Malaysia. Which university from this both you would suggest me to apply
why dun u go UGM(Universitas Gadjah Mada) ????
May i know u SPM result?? how many A+ u got??
Gajahmada and Padjajaran are ok
How about Andalas University??
Have not heard much about it
The agent were recommending me to go USU…..Wats the difference between USU n Padjajaran actually. They are not really sendin students 2 gajah mada this year due to earthquakes.
There are earthquakes everywhere in Indonesia!! I think they don’t send to Gajah mada because their entrance qualification may be more strict
A friend of mine went to USU for a few months and then withdrew from the course. According to him some teachers there are not upto standard and some even teach in Indonesian. That’s why i feel no regrets for rejecting the JPA offering in USU. However this was what happened 5 years back and things may have changed now.
As far as I know University of Indonesia and Gadjah Mada are the best two medical schools in Indonesia
Ok thx alot 4 all ur advices….
To be careful that some university in Indonesia do not have essay question to test the students……..MCQ entirely cant do much to access students knowledge…..
UGM (Universitas Gadjah Mada) ranking in the world is better than almost all Malaysia’s public and private medical school….There is a tough and strict screening entrance exam and interview for the prospective medical students. BTW, do beware of some agents who used to promise a lots of nonsense…..
my daughter insists on doing medicine and did her foundation in science programme in president college. she is now finding it difficult to enter any universities in malaysia coz she needs to clear up her spm papers. please advice if she were to take o levels and enter a university like mahsa would her qualification be recognised by the mmc later on?
The minimum standards to enter medical school is clearly stated here http://mmc.gov.my/v1/docs/MINIMUM%20CRITERIA%20V2.pdf. All medical colleges in this country need to comply with this by right! So, if the universities do not accept her then she do not have the qualifications
sir,im a medical student from malaysia studying in india currently.going to finish soon.i was wondering if my fiancee who is an indian will be able to practise here.if so,what does she have to do?she is also an mbbs student,from JNMC,india.thank you
If she is married to you, yes she can apply for HO post in Malaysia. Whether she will get a post or not depends on availability.
My daughter got 5A+, 2As, 1A- and 1B+ for chemistry. She is very
keen to do medicine and already register to do form 6. I want her to do foundation in science for 1 year which will lead to medicine locally but at the same time not sure which private university to enroll her. After reading your article recently in the MMA magazine, I am not sure of sending her for medicine. Since you have a lot of experience can you guide her on what other option she can choose apart from medcine and dentistry. I am a nurse by profession and already advise her but she is adamant and wants to take up only medicine. I just pray hard that her STPM results will be good enough for her to do medicine in the local university. Tq
Ask her to read my blog especially “For Future Doctors” page. After that, if she is still interested in medicine for what medicine is all about, ask her to go for STPM and get an excellent result to enter local public medical school. Foundation studies are a big scam as far as I am concerned. With the glut of doctors after 2015, having a degree from local uni will give you preference in getting a job.
Hello sir, I am from Srilanka. I have completed degree from st. Kitts university. Can i do internship in Malaysia?. What is the name of examination?. what all procedure i have to do?. please give me detail answer for this. Srilankan exam will come end of this year.
Malaysia do not offer housemanship for foreigners unless you are married to a Malaysian.
Dear Dr,
If Singaporeans from Monash Malaysia are not allowed to do housemanship in Malaysia, and Monash Malaysia is not recognised by Singapore, so what happen to all these students? Did they finally manage to get internship somewhere?
Yes, Australia
I was in Monash Malaysia (KL) three years ago, I was told only one Singaporean (2nd year student) was doing medicine there, taking the risk of no internship in Malaysia. Most Singaporeans go to IMU for its overseas partner medical schools.
Yup. The first 2 batches had Singaporeans(almost 10) but when they realised that SMC do not recognise them, the numbers started to drop. Same will happen to Newcastle.
dear Dr..I am a doctor and I do my mbbs from jiamusi university china.and I live in Pakistan.and now i complete my house job.I wants to do job in malaysia so kindly please give me some adivice.that how i apply for the job..
No university in China is recognised in Malaysia at the moment. Thus, you would not be able to get a job in Malaysia.
Dear DR.
I just wanted to know the career of emergency medicine in Malaysia as well as Singapore, after completing masters from uni Malaya in emergency medicine.
And also the chances of passing MRCP during the masters course. i have come to know that UM conduct 3 phases of MRCP.
pls help me by giving some idea.
Master’s is not recognised in Singapore. In Malaysia, your job will be in government service only. Private hospitals generally do not hire emergency physicians. The government sector is still short of Em physicians.
UM conducts all the 3 parts of MRCP but once each every year.
thank you very doctor.
one more thing i want to know,
after masters i want to do job in singapore. in that case MRCP will be helpful i guess. can u suggest ne other option after my course so that i can get job over there. i mean any fellowship or training in my field. emergency physicians supposed to get job in ICU , right doctor? in that case private hospitals should hire these group of doctors.
pls give me ur suuggestion.
Emergency physician works in the Emergency department/Accident&Emergency department. To work in Singapore, your basic medical degree must be recognised by Singapore Medical Council. The other option is if you pass MRCP or MRCS or MRCOG.
Dear Dr Paga:
I m a 4th year medical student from AIMST university.
After getting MRCP in Msia m I eligible to enter singapore specialist training programme then work in singapore as a specialist??
After that is it possible for me to practice in US??
Thank u very much…
Depends on availability of training post. You can work there as a MO after passing MRCP. It does not guarantee you a training post. US: NO you need to sit and pass USMLE